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they're trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security. >> i was surprised when he said that, because as a viewer, watching, i was like well, hang on a second, i thought the state department had said that they received these warnings. mitt romney today has doubled down on the attacks on joe biden, what he said. watch this. >> the vice president directly contradicted the sworn testimony of state department officials. he's doubling down on denial. >> the white house has said, hang on, he's just talking about himself and the president. how plausible is that? >> well, you know, the buck has to stop somewhere. they are in charge. diplomacy overseas is important to the executive branch as any mission i can think of, and this whole thing is just troubling to me, piers, because there's jt -- we have seen a bit of a history here so if you recall, back in the shooting at fort hood, they came out and said oh, this is workplace violence. obviously it turned out that that was an act of terror co
been looking forward to. this shows romney ryan surge after the first presidential debate is taking place. peter doocy is live with more on this. >>> you are right. the romney ryan ticket road the debate performance to the lead in the latest fox news poll of likely voters. before the debate the massachusetts governor and current wisconsin congressman trailed the president and vice president 43-48. they were down 5. now they are up one. the lead is even larger with critical independent voters. romney ryan were down 4 to romney biden but now they were up 12 with 44 percent with democratic side 32 percent. another key number are the voters were unsure they want somebody else. that number shot up 6 points after the debate. the debates have the potential to move the needle quite a bit. with four weeks to go joe biden has been prepping for his in delaware with chris van holland playing ryan. the president handicapped tonight's big show down. >> joe just needs to be joe. congressman ryan is a smart and effective seeker but his ideas are the wrong ones. >> ryan has a chance to let voters de
of mitt romney and paul ryan. it's a big part of the stump speech. it's reckless and irresponsible. >> the romney campaign says the obama campaign is wrong. in a statement the campaign said the reason it is an issue because for the first time since 1979 an american ambassador was assassinated and president obama's strategy is failing. former senior advisor to president reagan joins us. your thoughts about what stephanie cutter said? >> i think it's nonsense. this was the worst terrorist attack since september 11th. gangs of dozens of men with ak 47s and rocket propelled grenades and mortarred attacked and murdered ambassador, then a safe house, some guys got away and reported it that night. it may have been in realtime. this was a terrorist attack. and t ambassador is dead. and then, to have five days later our un ambassador say on five stations that this was a spontaneous attack that came out of a sort of a protest over some video made in california? now, either she was misinformed or misinformed us. i mean, greta, i've been in communications you don't get on five shows unless the
. now they're frying to blame the romney-ryan ticket for make thing an issue. with respect to iraq, we had the same position before the withdrawal, which was we agreed with the obama administration. the vice president was put in charge of the negotiations by president obama and they failed to get the agreement. we don't have an agreement because they failed to get one. that's what we were talking about. when it comes to the veterans, we owe them a great debt of gratitude, including your some, beau. >> thank you. >> but we also want to make sure we don't lose the things we fought so hard to get. and we agreed with the 2014 transition in afghanistan. but what we also want to do is make sure we're not projecting weakness abroad. this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself. but unfortunately, it's indicative of a broader problem, and that is what we're watching is the unraveling of the obama foreign policy, which is making things more chaotic and us less safe. >> i want to talk to you right in the middle of the crisis, governor romney, and you're talking about this again tonigh
. >> the entire reason that this has become the political topic it is is because of mitt romney and paul ryan. >> chris: do you really believe, david, that the concern over libya is just politics that has been ginned up by the romney campaign? >> look, i think there were two separate issues. obviously there is a serious issue here we have just been discussing it for are several minutes and it is an essential matter that we get to the bottom of what happened and bring the terrorists to justice. this terrorist is totally committed to that. there h is a separate issue of how governor romney has handled this. i refer you back to the famous 47% tape in the spring where governor romney told in private told supporters that he was waiting for a crisis or incident to jump in it on national security and he did. he jumped in right away the day of these attacks with half information in a way that was denounced by both republicans and democrats and there is no doubt that he is working hard to exploit this issue and i would point to the fact that this morning in bloomberg news chris stevens' dad said that
the information that is available from the romney/ryan campaign it is not possible to cut tax rates as much as you'd like without eliminating deductions that may hurt the middle cla. specifically, you can't do this without changing rules on capital gains taxes, dividend taxes and the romney campaign has said they will not do that. you cannot cut taxes and keep the middle class deductions and can't cut taxes and keep lower rates on capital gains. now the romney campaign has said, look, we would work with the congress. we would -- we can't tell you what exactly it would look like because we'll work with the congress but the tax policy center says it can't be done. given what we know, it can't be done. the second claim, let's talk about the auto bailout, fight begun this on the campaign trail. vice president biden made the case that romney would let detroit go bankrupt. listen. >> we knew we had to act for the middle class. we immediately went out and rescued general motors. we went ahead and made sure that we cut taxes for the middle class, and in addition to that, when that occurred what, did romne
few years. and governor romney and congressman ryan, who have a very clear, five-point plan to create 12 million new jobs in this economy. bill: there it is from the other side. russ, thank you. rryback quick reactions this morning thanks for being here. >> thanks, bill. bill: 20 minutes before the hour. jamie what's next? jamie: there is even more reaction from last night's debate. we'll hear from the last person to face off with joe biden four years ago, governor sarah palin. what she thinks about what is talked about. bill: has a lot to stay. the president's team saying the political firestorm over libya is mitt romney. bret baier pushing back on that. did you her this on "special report"? >> what are you suggesting here. are you suggesting we're playing politics with this? bill: the rest of that exchange in a moment. you will hear the answer when we come back. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ]
the romney campaign -- romney-ryan -- walks a fine line here between here are the tragic deaths of four americans, versus putting it out on there the stump? >> vice president biden directly contradicted the sworn testimony of the state department in the debate the other night. that led to another round of kind of nuancing by the white house. >> let me ask you a question about this. putting it in the political realm. >> it's a national security question here, which is, you know, when -- why would the adminiration and the president -- the president two weeks after these attacks on september 11 which resulted in the first -- the assassination of an ambassador, the first in 33 years, and it was known at this point by various accounts that it was a premeditated attack, you know, six times in the united nations speech talked about this youtube video and never said anything about it being a terrorist attack. >> do you think he was lying? i'm trying to figure out what you all are saying. >> there are inconsistencies here, clear there are a lot more questions than answers. >> ed gillespie, sior
of what you see in the polls. this momentum that's very much on the side of mitt romney. and paul ryan. so it is very much up to vice president biden to take a shot here and try to stop some of that momentum because if you see a win by paul ryan, it's covered as a one-two punch. the momentum will continue. we know talking to some of the vice president's aides that he's going to come out swinging. this's the expectation, to be on offense. we've been told he's eager, feeling good and trying to draw a contrast. when you look at the tiny table in the picture, brooke, it is a pretty intimate setting. if he's going to get in to it and draw a contrast, that's sort of code for confrontation. we'll see if he makes good on the promise of the team. >> bring yaannbrianna, do they say something memorable, as in not in a good way memorable? >> reporter: you'll remember he's sort of known as a bit of a gaffe machine. puts in his foot in his mouth from time to time. he said that the middle class buried for four years and that was something that the romney campaign just jumped on. the thing is, while he's
to mitt romney's and paul ryan's budget plan, it would cost $2,000 to pay for tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires, it turns medicare into a voucher system. that's one thing that mitt romney was honest about. he said that we should cut medicare benefits. embrace that and proposed it. and then to add insult to injury said, yeah, we won't be able to have medicare to continue to be a guarantee, we will have to shred that safety net to preserve it. barack obama's plan has proven we can add years of solvency, 8 years by making sure we reduce wasteful subsidies to medicare insurance companies and add years of solvency. we need to work together to continue to move forward, not have republicans rooting for failure and really transparently being disappointed that we have made progress. we have a ways to go, but we need to continue to move forward and fight for the middle class, not for the people who are doing really, really well and make sure they can do even better. >> shannon: you brought up obamacare. and medicare, but that's a plan, which outside independent bodies and fact-checking o
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to hear a lot of debate about the paul ryan budget, a budget that governor romney has called a marvelous budget, but a budget that does terrible things for the working middle class, and so i think that is going to make this aness spellings le an especially interesting debate. bill: paul ryan will have a chance to answer that. he's the leader of the house. do you suggest that mitt romney was lying in that first debate? >> you can use whatever words -- bill: i'm asking you if you would use it. >> he said things that weren't accurate and in my judgment were dishonest. for example the preexisting condition statement that he made to 70 million people was blatantly false. and it was his plan, i think he probably knew that when he made that false statement. bill: you would agree it's the duty of the president to rebut that. >> no. bill: and to do it based on the healthcare law that he pushed through. now you are president obama's number one surrogate in ohio and that's been the case ever since he wro*pb the whit won the white house four years ago. how concerned but in winning the white house. >
performance versus governor romney and ryan were for posterity. opportunities, a revitalization of the free market situation. it's a very clear contrast. bill: i asked governor strickland how much debate number one set back their momentum. he kicked it to the side and i expected him to with regard to that. what do you think that first debate did in order to shape and define the race that leads us to tonight in danville. >> i think that that debate certainly energized the campaign and gave governor romney a great deal of momentum. i don't think there is any doubt about it. i think people saw that governor romney was very much in command of the facts, more so than the president was. he made a very compelling argument for how he can get the economy moving again e. tkeufd it in a way that was very respectful for the office of the presidency without being inch dim natured by the man who holds the office e. dead it in way that a lot of americans had respect for. i think it was a terrific performance. the important thing was the underlying substance. governor romney has a view of posterity. bill:
in lancaster. romney talked about how proud he was of the vice presidential choice and ryan's performance at the debate earlier this week. >> we got to watch this guy debate, and there was one person on the stage with thoughtfulness, who was respectful, who was steady and poised. there's one person on that stage you'd want to be with the there were a crisis and it's this man right here. >> romney and ryan are both in ohio today. this is the live picture from youngstown. paul ryan will be speaking there in just a few minutes from now. ohio is one of the key swing states for both romney and obama. both have spent a whole lot of time there talking to voters. so how are the voters receiving all that attention? cnn political editor paul steinhauser joining us now to talk about that. good morning to you what. is the story in ohio? >> reporter: ohio -- it sounds like a broken record. but these candidates keep going back to ohio. the second straight day for mitt romney. the president was just there earlier this week. here's my unofficial count here. since the start of the general election, which
. >> romney and ryan are both in ohio today. this is the live picture from youngstown. paul ryan will be speaking there in just a few minutes from now. ohio is one of the key swing states for both romney and obama. both have spent a whole lot of time there talking to voters. so how are the voters receiving all that attention? cnn political editor paul steinhauser joining us now to talk about that. good morning to you what. is the story in ohio? >> reporter: ohio -- it sounds like a broken record. but these candidates keep going back to ohio. the second straight day for mitt romney. the president was just there earlier this week. here's my unofficial count here. since the start of the general election, which was usually considered early april, the president has now made 12 swings through ohio. this is the 16th swing for mitt romney. over $91 million spent by the campaigns. the party committees, the super pacs in ohio. 18 electoral votes at stake in such an important state. this is the state that put president george w. bush over the top in 2004. mitt romney really needs to win it
to romney. >> ryan is going to be brilliant. >> bill: whatever they do, it's a matter of i think both candidates will be very, very cautious. the reason i say that ryan lost it today was because you have to assume if you're ryan or romney that the press wants to hurt you, no matter who it is. when they do something as this reporter did, that was pretty stupid, you just laugh about it. come on. you roll your eyes. you don't react in a serious way because then that will be used against you. all right. >> remember, beating up on the left wing press works to the republican candidate's advantage every time. >> bill: if i had done that, if he said listen, you pinhead, that was an unfair question. but it looked like he wanted to get away from him so it didn't look good. later, john stossel on why some companies are hurting their workers over obamacare. interesting report. plus, selling your stuff. very quietly the supreme court may stop us from that! is it legal? moments away >> bill: in the impact segment, there is no question the romney campaign now has momentum because of the first debate
the romney/ryan campaign raised last night in milwaukee. we look at how the money will get put to work. topping the political headlines, a whole new round of fire on the sunday morning talk shows over -- the debate. tell you how nbc's "meet the press," senior obama campaign adviser robert gibbs conceded the president could have done better and also took aim at governor romney. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying that mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> former speaker and republican candidate newt gingrich said this morning that president obama has no excuse. >> the president of the united states had 90 minutes. now, if he had done his homework and actually prepared and actually studied romney, why didn't he say it? i mean why didn't he take romney head-on? the job of the president is supposed to be competent and be
. republican nominee paul ryan trying to build on team romney's momentum. that is how it started last night. this morning we end. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to friday edition of "america's newsroom." martha is out. >> i'm jamie colby out for martha they provided points and issues on zingers and economy and debate decorum. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> with regard to social security, we will not, we will not privatize it. if we listened to governor romney and congressman during the bush years, man where all those seniors would be now if there money had been in the market. their ideas are old and their ideas are bad and they eliminate the guaranty of medicare. >> here he is the problem. they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar turning medicare into a piggybank for obamacare. >> usually when there is a crisis we pull together. we pull together as a nation. as i said, even before we knew what happened to the ambassador the governor was holding a
concerned about, and don't forget, paul ryan was the first test of mitt romney. mitt romney chose him to be his running mate. and so it was very important to mitt romney himself that paul ryan be a credible contender sitting next to joe biden, who is a very experienced politician, and also has been vice president. >> gloria, you've been doing this a while. was that the most incredible vice presidential debate you've seen? >> it was. i must say the anticipation was more for sarah palin for me because we were sort of interested to see, again, joe biden, how he would deal with sarah palin, and whether she could actually stand toe to toe with him. the bar was very low for sarah palin and she surpassed what people expected. this was so interesting, of course, because joe biden essentially had to save the democratic party or so it seemed. and the president had to watch him very closely and probably pretty beholden today, but you have the town hall coming up that candy is going to moderate. >> let me tell everyone about it. gloria borger, thank you. coming out of here this vp debate and head
supports the romney ryan plan for economy would shower the world's wealthiest individuals with trickle down tax cuts. melissa: no trickle down government? >> well, this iss just another version of that radical right-wing social experime known as trickle-down ecomics which proved to be complete failure. there is no supply side solution to the current situation. we need a demandside solution. we need americans with jobs and businesses need customers with money in their pockets ready to spend it that will be the only thing that will kick-start e economy. melissa: justin, mitt romney said he would not repeal dodd-frank whether you believe it or not. he would not make it easier for them. that banks given him the money and he will pull a bait and switch. who do you think the friend is? >> governor romney said we develop in the debate which he did very well bense president obama, look, there are things that we need regulation on. and i think that is mething that he needs to say more often. obvisly republicans believe in a more of a free market system that there can be trickle down government that
is romney/ryan. >> signs are always in the perfect position for the televisi cameras or still photographers to pick them up. >> because of how cameras work, we have something here like 40, 50-foot banners cover buildings and get in a tight shot. >> it's the first thing he walks past that people say as he makes the pivot toward the stage. >> what difference does it make? >> visuals matter so much. campaigns come down to photography. campaigns need light and sound. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the next president of the united states! >> keep it up, keep it up. >> now kill it, kill it. >> if we fail, the message stays here with 2,000 or 3,000 people in cleveland, ohio. the goal is to make sure it translates to as many folks as possible. >> ritter monitors the events as they happen. >> hey, will, you're live on all the cables. can i get more hand signs to that crowd behind the gov? >> setting up one event may take weeks and yet -- >> it may last ten minutes. >> then they do it again. 1:00, 2:00 in the morning, we'll it again it heads to the next truck and it heads to the next site. >
feel very confident what we've been seeing from the romney-ryan ticket lately. i think we'll see a big surge if that happens. melissa: what was the reaction to your sign so far? have people been support i have of you or did anyone say to you maybe not to be so political? >> we've had a little negative but we have had incredible positive feedback from it. we have had other business owners coming in and actually stopping in to shake my hand quite frankly. we had e-mails. we had people, stopped traffic in front of our, in front of our business. a lot of positive feedback. i believe there only two people negatively responded to the sign. melissa: what did you think of last night's vp debate? in fact, i think we have a sound bite from that to play for you to react to the other side? let's listen to that? >> sure. >> you taxed every person and success small business $250,000 at 100%, would only run the government for 98 days. if everybody who paid income taxes last year including successful small businesses doubled their income taxes this year we would still have a $300 billion deficit. you
and mitt romney, but also between paul ryan and mitt romney. he knows a lot about paul ryan on medicare, social security and also i was told, foreign policy. he will try to talk about that. >> it's interesting, john, you talk about the generational divide between these two but unlike the presidential debate where you had a former law professor and former ceo, these are two guys with blue collar backgrounds and have spent a lot of time out there campaigning. how noticeable do you think that's going to be? >> it takes one to know one. so let me put it this way. these are the two beer drinkers in this race. the president and governor romney, no insult intended, can seem a bit elite, detached sometimes. these are more be collar guys. they're comfortable in an irish pub, in a vfw post. that's their job on the campaign trail, go out and get the working class voters who could be key especially in some of the midwest battleground states. stylistically, even though there's an age difference, they are somewhat alike, these two. and that's what's so interesting. liberals are looking for biden to p
the tables and put the focus more on romney's agenda? >> paul ryan didn't get much of a chance to put the onus on biden for anything. look, i think he it go out there. he tried to the extent that he could while he was dodging the kitchen sinks that were coming at him to put some information out there, continue to further the romney agenda, the sort of positive vision for the economy you but he didn't get a big chance. that's something mitt romney is going to have to be aware of and get ready for as he moves into this debate with owe -- obama. obama won't go on the stage and make the style mistakes joe biden did. >> the answer for ripe i thought was week. he said romney is a car guy. what does that mean? that's not an answer on the bailout. that's not an explanation. that's one of those nonsense. >> i think on domestic policy i think ryan did okay. most of the debate was foreign policy which plays to biden's strength. but on domestic policy i thought ryan did okay except for the discussion of entitle meant reform where i think biden said who do you trust, talk to the cameras, and i tho
the romney/ryan ticket in the lead. >> everybody says that the polls are skewed one way. >> reporter: a recent poll has come out that shows romney in front. how do you feel about that poll? >> he got a good bump out of the debate. >> reporter: you're saying you believe that poll? >> yeah. >> reporter: the people in this room, it is indeed tempting to now believe these latest numbers. not everyone is ready to believe. >> the pew research poll shows romney in front now. do you think that poll's accurate? >> probably as accurate as any of them out there. >> reporter: you don't think there's a difference? >> no. >> reporter: this woman had one thought she very much wanted to express. >> i think the only poll that's going to count is the one on november 6th. >> reporter: you can argue with what many people here are saying, but you can't argue with that. gary tuchman, cnn, rochester, michigan. >> she's right about that poll. being the one that matters. michigan is tightening, you saw from the polling at the top. ohio is tightening too, where early voting is well under way. chief national c
. after making chevy volt batteries one plant is seeing anything but green. after supporting romney and ryan another celeb has a message for hollywood. >> quarter pounder, chicken? no? >> quarter pounder. look at this. look at this. quarter pounder. >> you know we all know campaign karl. he is on the pain with rit romney. mitt romney trying to convince romney to eat the burger. he is panning out burgers. lots of photographers you heard clicking. welcome back to pox and friends first. >> it is time for your 5@that5:. a colorado girl who has been missing since walking to school has been expanded to missouri. they share a home together and that then shared by police. the 10-year-old father is not a person of interest. he reportedly has a history of violence. it has been expanded in colorado surrounding her home town and where her backpack was found. >> they are giving parents a hand replacing the infamous hooks he got after a botched atta attack to rage jihad in afghanistan. the cost up to 5,000 dollars so he can clean himself in the slammer. the metal hooks were removed last week afte
showdown only days away. new poll numbers show governor romney with a post-debate bump. paul ryan getting ready for the faceoff against joe biden in the next big debate. i'm bill hemmer here. martha has the day off. >> i'm patti ann browne in for mart maing that -- martha maccallum. a veteran political strategist says joe biden will be going for the throat. >> they will be pouring cola down his throat. they will react. because they will have a couple days of bad polling. ryan has very impressive but hasn't done this before. biden who is high-wire act in attack mode which is not always his normal place. bill: joe cola. fox news contributor, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: you believe this is huge opportunity for romney-ryan, why? >> it is. romney set the stage for the dominant victory over the president in the first presidential debate. that changed the story of the whole campaign. if you have ryan defeating the vice president joe biden it would really create a story of obama-biden on the ropes. and, romney-ryan on the move. bill: the way mike murphy explains it, republic
believe this is huge opportunity for romney-ryan, why? >> it is. romney set the stage for the dominant victory over the president in the first presidential debate. that changed the story of the whole campaign. if you have ryan defeating the vice president joe biden it would really create a story of obama-biden on the ropes. and, romney-ryan on the move. bill: the way mike murphy explains it, republican strategist on "meet the press" sunday morning, democrats could be desperate. do you agree with that? >> they're certainly very worried. the degree of concern they had over the president's performance in denver is much deeper than we even thought. they're very, very worried about that. they're looking for joe biden to come out and deliver a lot of zingers and attack lines that barack obama didn't. this is the second chance in the presidential debate. there is not another actual presidential debate until october 16th. bill: listen how paul ryan explains how he sees vice president joe biden. >> he is fast on the cuff. he is a witty guy. he knows who he is and been doing this for 40 years. s
energy and more jobs, the romney ryan camp putting the keystone pipeline back in the national spotlight. we track all of our money that is going to the solar panel industry in china. and that ominous dark cloud hanging overhead, not connell, was expected to be a lousy season for quarterly earnings. some of the names in question coming up in today's trade. connell: give you a name in question. bottom of the hour let's go back the nicole in now who is not in question at all. eli lilly? nicole: highest level since 08. we're talking about an experimental alzheimer's drug which did well for eli lilly so far in the experiment. let's take a look here, up 1/2% -- up 3 1/2%. experimental drug for alzheimer's. led to 34% reduction in memory decline for patients with mild symptoms over a period of 18 months. that's a pretty good showing. that's why we saw the stock jumping. speaking of jumping, i wanted to also take a look at some names that have hit some 52 week highs today. i know some of them have pulled back and you may see some red arrows here, but you can't deny that they today hit 52 week h
for the next four years of romney/ryan in the white house. dennis: what about our vice president? what does he need to do? >> the first thing he cannot do is have a gas. team needs to get the obama campaign back on track. it is a tall order for him. he has been in the senate for a long time and vice president for four years and a senior statesman who will be on stage. i do think the pressures on him to hit a home run tonight and even saturday night live goofed on him. if you're counting on joe biden to save you the campaign is in trouble. dennis: by the same token given expectations for joe biden, can he win the debate by avoiding a gaffe? >> he is going to try to make all look like the count with a green eyeshade that isn't caring and go on the attack. the obama campaign has signaled they are going to go on the attack tonight and in the next presidential debate and if he does come across without making a mistake he will look like having a good night. dennis: the vice presidential candidates have to talk about their leader. not about themselves. yet i can't think of another debate where one of
handled it a lot better. romney has been weak o ecifics. ryan has specifics. they're gog toiehater ifhero. >>n oio ilt. >>l:tetho,s a matter of i think both candidates will be very, very cautious. the reason i say that ryan lost it today was because you he to assume if you're ryan or romney that the press wants tourt reer dthrey idusau about it. come on. you roll your eyes. you don't react in a serious way because then that will be used against you. all right. >> remember, beating up on the left wing press works to the repuican candidate's advante eryim ilf d t i s ln,in, w an unfair question. but it looked like he wanted to get away from him so it didn't look good. later, john stossel on why some companies are hurting their woers over obamacare. interestg report. maopus from that! is it legal? moments away >> bill: in the impact segment, there is no question the romney campaign now has momentum because of t firsteb thceinie at 48. the governor moved up in states like pennsylvania and michigan where he was losing ground before the debate >> a poor placto be for a upf on mbne htod er u 4f
about the math for this. and paul ryan said look, the math takes too long. well, mitt romney's solution, he just decided there was not math involved in this problem. and that is absolutely crazy, the only thing he outlined in the budget, that he would cut is big bird. he has taken to sesame street and let wall street run wild. >> if you impose this debt on future generations, and big bird, i can tell you as the father of three children grown now, but any father who has gone to a toy store knows that big bird is a pretty commercially successful. and whether or not we should subsidize it, and say it is not that big of a percentage of the budget, that is true, but every penny that you raise as a cut, seems to be sacred with this administration, and they can't cut it. and i think the american people understand this is a big election and a big choice. >> meanwhile, the big debate about the presidential debate has spilled into a second week. >> the president of the united states had 90 minutes. now, if he had done his homework and actually prepared and actually studied romney, why didn't he s
taken after the first presidential showdown. according to the "fox news poll" the romney ryan ticket got a boost jumping three points while the obama-biden ticket dropped three. the impact of the debate seems greater among independents with that voting bloc jumping five points in support of team romney while team obama dropped 7 points. president obama's opinion stayed the same after the debate while gove romney's rose four percentage points. that gives him a one point lead. still when you factor in the margin of error it is still too close to call. how did the president and governor romney did at the debate? both are weighing in. >> well, governor romney i had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it is not the first time i've had a bad night. >> well, obviously the president wasn't happy with the response to our debate last night. >> what's your message to joe biden about tomorrow night? >> well i, you know, i think joe just needs to be joe. jon: joining us now is karl rove, former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and a fox news contr
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